Uncovered - Dangerous Secrets of the DOT Helmet Standard
Your DOT motorcycle helmet is not as safe as you think. "Outdated" doesn't even begin to describe this conspiracy. Last time FMVSS218 saw a major update, only two countries had internet and NASA coined an obscure new term called "global warming." Yikes.
Snell Helmets: frt9.co/rp7sy3
ECE Helmets: frt9.co/darbmj
Look up test reports for your own helmet:
icsw.nhtsa.gov/cars/problems/comply/
Read more about this issue:
www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/bio/proceedings/2005_33/33-2.pdf
www.snell-helmets.org/docs/articles/hic/Feasibility_Study_of_218.pdf
www.msf-usa.org/downloads/imsc2001/Thom.pdf
www.smf.org/docs/articles/mcomp2.html
one.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/NRD/Multimedia/PDFs/Public%20Paper/SAE/2007/2007%20SAE%20Gov%20Ind%20Mtg_Covell.pdf
The Snell, ECE and DOT Official Criteria:
www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=0b03b2c80fce1aa8edf303bc44e71eeb&mc=true&node=se49.6.571_1218&rgn=div8
www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/r022r4e.pdf
www.smf.org/standards/m/2015/M2015FinalFinal
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Don’t ever go with the government’s products. They buy from the cheapest bid
This is why my helmet is ECE and Snell certified instead.
Ralph Nader should be laughing at home.
Full face DOT helmets from Wish are safer than a half or bowl helmet
Thanks regan and your deregulation
I am from India and we have an "ISI" mark on things likes these.🧐 Need to investigate the Indian system too.😑
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Amazon lists a ton of helmets in the motorcycle helmet section that don't even have DOT approval. I bought one for $20, admittedly just to use on a bicycle since it looked like a bicycle helmet but it had a full face shield. Sure enough, it has about the same amount of foam protection as a bicycle helmet.
I didn’t realise but here in uk we have banned DOT helmets for public road use. Can you buy one in the UK... yep, for some strange reason you can buy one Can you legally use it... no, not on public roads UK basically did a half arsed job at this but hey it is technically banned
Yes kid the government screws stuff up welcome to the real world.
well its 2 years latter , how far have we come ?
So basically a DOT helmet is JUST good enough to keep your head and brain contained in the helmet when you die. Alright then good to go!
6:02 Ryan higa😂😂
What about my NHK dot helmet? Is it good
I ignore DOT stickers. It's just more taxes I pay that are wasted on useless government bureaucracy.
Power drift spotted
Thanks God my vancore 2 it's ECE :D
In the end of the day, it's the riders choice. I personally don't think helmets should be mandatory at all. I wear one because I value my head, but we shouldn't be forcing others if they don't want to. However, people should be educated, if they want a better helmet, buy one that meets the other standards.
I Thought Most Injuries Were Below The Knee. If That's The Case, Seems Like They're Just Gambling With Fractures, Our Fractures!! Let's Play Lawn Darts . . .
The thing about dot is that its not really a safety organization all it does is make things legal
@FortNine Problobly not
Which begs the question, is that really useful? ~RF9
You have to talk about SHARP tests. That would be interesting! :D
I trust CE approval a little more. I had the chance to visite the entire Nolan/Xlite production line in 2015. They seem to have a very good work ethic regarding the safety standard approval. All shells types are tested, well documented and submitted to CE.
In malaysia we have another standard called "malaysia standard sirim" Every brand or model of helmet that import to be sold in Malaysia must pass the test by ministry of transportation to get the supportive document only then they can import it Most of the time ece certified helmet could pass the test easily but not dot Only if the helmet passed passed both ece and dot like arai , one of arai moto is to meet every country's requirements that they sell their helmets in ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/y6Fjl7F4dbCLc9Y.html ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/1JeI28ZzhKpsZtY.html Recently saw some videos about this helmet from Taiwan which cost around 100+usd With their makeshift testing, not the most accurate, but quite legit
wow.
DOT has always been meaningless here in Oz. When it was decided that the Australian AS1698 standard was protectionism and hurt consumer choice in a world of global markets (not to mention being outdated with it's similar basis on the American ANSI Z.90 ), I'm glad we didn't continue to turn to the Yanks for road safety standards. They aren't exactly world leaders with their continued lack of training/licencing standards, or even mandatory helmet laws in some states. At least ECE 22-05 tests a broader area and the chin bar.
Brilliant video. Informative and not trying to sell something. Has DOT responded yet?
Ece is similiar and being dot rated doesnt make it worthless.
Hence why my DOT "motorcycle" helmet is only ever going to be used with my moped. and only until I can afford something better.
dot helmets are illegal in Australia
I'm surprised the fim standard didn't keep snells no sunglass rule. It is actually a genuine safety concern and it makes a large difference on frontal impacts whether the shell catches anything or not. it was a slap in the face of snow though for sure, considering there's helmets that are fim but not snell
this dude is hilarious
I knew DOT was bad, I did not know it was this awful and downright dangerous. As a new rider I'd of gotten a DOT helmet, thank god I didn't in the end but I'm honestly scared for the people that did and trust that they're safe. Thanks for shining a light on this.
If you are looking for independent testing to realistic standards check the Sharp system run by the British government. Randomly bought in stores, and tested in different sizes with several impacts each to criteria based on the Hurt report. I work as an aerospace engineer in interior safety, so I'm well qualified to assess the validity of their testing. I advise my friends and family not to wear anything that's below 4 preferably 5 star on their list. Have a look and judge for yourself at sharp.dft.gov.uk/
looks like guy ritchie movie))
I love this guys videos.
Wow, 500+ dislikes. That’s a new one on me. Sounds just a little bit fishy, doesn’t it? Thanks for the exposé. Truly had no concept that our much respects and cherished DOT was actually not worthy of our trust and confidence. Keep’m coming, and thanks for your dedication to the motorcycling public.
Excelente video. Gran trabajo y todo hecho de manera interesante. No sabía que el malo de lazy town ahora tiene un canal de LTworlds
Two years later, has this been fixed? (Genuinely curios)
Unfortunately not. ~RF9
you viewed powerdrift?
Sadly there just as many that don't know that also don't care b/c not wearing one is "cool".
Smoking kills
Department Of Trade?
Loving the whole scenario, one of a kind!
This guy can be the Alton Brown of motorcycles
What's most appalling is that this is such an easy fix. All the NHTSA needs to do is come up with some credible standards based on existing research and require that manufacturers perform testing at an independent test lab. They do this for electronics for instance and it works fine. Is the helmet lobby really that strong?
Let's me think of german car manifacturers like bmw mercedes and audi. The bult theyr cars strong at the european ncap crash impact zones but are extremelly weak anywere else. the result is that they get ripped open like sodacans in certain crashes
So DOT means nothing but how do all the other standards stack up against each other? ECE 2205 is less than ECE 2215 but is it the same/better or worse than Snell? the UK Sharp ratings are much like DOT but they actually give a rating not just a pass/fail so that would put them over DOT IMO? And there is a new one but I can't remember its name.
Self certify? Hmmm we know how that worked out a boeing, 346 people murdered by their faulty planes, zero ramifications, the bastards even changed the name now to cover it up, they are even in testing to re-certify this 737 max POS
Lmfao ;) XD freaking lit choreography
Termelon? I went to high school with that guy!
seriously Aneesh is crazy good. this video quality is so good its almost distracting to what he's actually saying lol.
self certify? the paper hat i just made is now DOT approved. i'm selling it for $150 who whats one? also is it marketing BS or true helmets are only good for one impact even if knocked off a chair? Physically i see no reason why being knocked off a chair or table will affect the safety of it. in reality its marketing wank and manufactures just want your money. i've heard about bs marketing such as the famous "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" which is just made up to drive sales.
I'm a new viewer of your channel but man you give great information and are extremely funny...
Next, you’ll tell me this chicken nugget I’m eating wasn’t actually inspected by the Department of Agriculture.
I watched this but am based in the UK and we don't use the same standard. However, UK govt states all crash helmets have to meet this standard: British Standard BS 6658:1985 and carry the BSI Kitemark UNECE Regulation 22.05, a European Economic Area member standard offering at least the same safety and protection as BS 6658:1985, and carry a mark equivalent to the BSI Kitemark They also link to this website, which posts reviews on how helmets hold up. sharp.dft.gov.uk/ Also in the interests of completeness, there is this doc which explains what UNECE Regulation 22.05 is about www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/publications/WP29/Leaflet_Helmets.pdf Hope this is useful
This is best youtube channel I have seen till date... People who produce these videos think toooo much... Love you guys
I've always bought Snell rated, even on my dirt bike. I'm sure it's saved me at least 1 concussion, if not more
New canuck rider here and I was looking at my first helmet... was informed DOT was wha I needed and dont spend more for Snell. Thank you guys, I will spend a little more for a Snell rated helmet for me and my wife.
Hi from sunny 🏴 Any update on the DOT debacle ? Cheers
A great site is Sharp for helmet testing. Enter your helmet model and get full results on its safety. sharp.dft.gov.uk/
Buddy. I can't praise you enough for your videos. Love them! You put in so much effort and it shows! Keep it up :)
Budget cuts improperly executed = lack of proper enforcement of standards. I grew up with Snell as the race regulations demanded that only Snell certified helmets can be used on a track.
This is what happens when you give a physicist who is also a motorcycle vlogger an assignment to test helmets!
That's why I always get something that is also ECE standard
this kind of content is for free? steal
Great content and I love the little allusions to things like McConaughey Lincoln commercials. Keep on having fun with it and don’t burn out. You are producing a lot of content so keep the quality high and I will gladly accept fewer videos if that is the Faustian bargain you have to make with LTworlds.
I whole heartedly believe the DOT standards should be updated to match world levels, but then that would put all the Snell people out of work. I guess what I would say is to look for the ECE approved sticker, seems they cover more testing and actually do it. Never did I fall into the "if it's DOT it's good" I fell into the "If the specific manufacturer builds a Snell helmet do they really make a less safe helmet that is their DOT model?" Would they risk that liability? Plus what was not mentioned here - the infamous Motorcyclist helmet test where it seemed the more common brand names among the lower cost helmets actually tested up to most all Snell standards of the day, safer in some areas in consideration of what should have been the standards. Plus pointing out the Snell standard at the time was poorly spec'ed out. That test was what forced Snell to actually create a separate standard for motorcycle helmets. It was supervised by a far more authoritative individual than our Fortnine host, it was set up and supervised by Dr. David Thom, a renown name in motorcycle safety. Just sayin' Snell isn't the end all. I wore a non-Snell HJC CL15 road helmet and now wear a Bell MX9 adventure MIPS helmet that also does not have the Snell endorsement. Do I believe either helmet company builds those helmets down in comparison to their Snell helmets when it comes to safety? I kind of doubt it, they'd have a hard time explaining in court why they build a less safe helmet without notifying the buyer that it isn't as safe as the Snell helmet. By the way one time I tried to find the helmets that tested bad. What I found at the time was no helmet brand or style I'd put on my head. I didn't see any Bell, HJC, or even Vega in the ones I saw at the time.
Just watching this now, that corona bottle tossed in didnt age well
Did powerdrift just made a cameo in for t 9 ! Woow!.
That's good and all, but helmets need to also be reasonably priced. It's hard to justify a helmet that costs over $100 but your motorcycle can only run no more than 80kph, only recommended to keep for 5 years before replacing, and costs half of the cost of your motorcycle.
Anyone remember the Motorcyclist Magazine's tell-all about helmet standards?
this guy deserves a freakin OSCAR
It was imazing! good job! i am astonished
This guy is genious
D.O.T is too busy picking on truckers to bother with motorcycle helmets.
I know this is two years too late. But it is too late for DOT now. The damage has been done, people go by ECE and SNELL, in 5 years MIPS will be standard so even if DOT kicks itself up the ass and becomes brilliant; well who is going to trust DOT reformed or not? Why would we trust our heads in an organisation which took 50 years to realise 60 year old legislation was unsuitable when SNELL and ECE have been saving people’s lives for decades longer....
helmet standards dodgy but the whole world is dodgy
When you're from Europe and know damn well DOT is crap.
Best motorcycle channel ever!!!!! Education in general should be this way!
I want to ride but my father won’t let me buy a snell
Oh, I guess that's why my DOT helmet I bought for my MSF course was only $50
Is it inconceivable that our government doesn’t actually care for our health??
Whats so hard for updating a safety standard. I used double standard SNI and DOT standard and yeah my visor would not pass snell and the fit were wobbly but im never went over 70kph on a highway with a 600cc motorbike.
I dont use a helmet . LOL !
Give this man an oscar already
Excellent work. Who knew that education could be this fun to watch :D
I thought my bell qualifier dlx was only DOT certified. I'm glad this made me double check, it is in fact ece certified as well. Good information for sure
the sheer amount of work to produce your videos.... my goodness!! it's incredibly interesting with STORYLINES!
Based: CHECK Redpilled: CHECK
A few weeks ago I was looking into buying my first helmet, I found out about DOT's testing and I just couldn't believe how ppl entrust their round domes with DOT only helmets. It's just crazy. DOT only tend to be cheap so maybe ppl get them for that reason, apparently they don't think that their head deserves a mere $100 more which WILL save their lives at some point.
I'm glad that i can trust european regulations on helmets. My helmet saved my life, as someone ran into the back of me and pushed me into the car i was standing behind. When i saw this helmet getting crushed by the car so easily, i didn't want to imagine what my head would have looked like if i wore that thing
The second I saw “D.O.T. Approved” on one of those half helmets when I was a kid, I quit trusting them. D.O.T. Approval means nothing to me. I look for Snell and E.C.E. My Bell Star DLX MIPS took a nasty hit in my accident last summer when I was hit. But I made it out with not even so much as a headache. So I bought the same helmet again. I’ve tested it, and it worked great!
Now I have to go listen to Moondance by Van Morrison 😛
He threw the message in a Corona bottle!!! F9 = Illuminati Confirmed
Hey Fortnine I’m looking at purchasing a HJC RPHA11 helmet specs that I have read say DOT & ECE approved. Your thoughts on this helmet and standards would be great thanks. Great channel by the way.
The production value on this video is incredible. I also learned a lot. Thank you.
I didnt know you smoke :/
What a filmmaker, very entertaining.
I don't actually care about helmets I just wear mine to please my wife but I'm still gonna watch this just because it's a fort nine video and Ryan never dissapoints.
DOT is a laugh for motorcycle helmets.