Can Fuel Stabilizer Kill Your Motorcycle? Comparison Test

31 Spa 2020
344 062 Peržiūros

We find answers to all of your fuel stabilizer questions, so sit back, relax and soak it in. [Links below]

FUEL ADDITIVES TESTED:
K100 : frt9.co/8e16fl
Seafoam : Don't.
Sta-Bil : frt9.co/wv4hyr
Ipone : frt9.co/sx20a7
STP : Available locally.
StarTron : frt9.co/lkzq88

Cinematographer & Editor : Aneesh Shivanekar

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  • Poor Seafoam. Great video as always, but Seafoam shouldn't be in the list because you're using it wrong. And if someone use's it wrong then... Not the product's fault. - Seafoam is meant to be run through an engine, not to stabilize the fuel of an unused vehicle; its stabilization is a tertiary effect at best. Long term fuel stabilization is not the maker's intent. - What it DOES do magnificently is clear carbon deposits. The proper way to use it is as a flush for the cylinders and combustion pathways. After maybe 30 minutes of work you clear it all out. You CAN leave it in, but that would be for a currently running machine, not storage, as it requires combustion to do its job properly. It's good to know though that it's def not a long term stabilizer, but again... not it's purpose, shouldn't be in the test.

    Ben King-EaglesBen King-EaglesPrieš 9 val
  • Cinematography, editing, lightning, script, delivery, sound, ... all benchmark. 100% quality, and yes, then there is the great motorcycle subject we came to see. Cheers!

    MN NicMN NicPrieš 14 val
  • Can you run the standard 91 octane gas throughout your riding season then run a tank, or two, of ethanol free gas and store your bike with the same ethanol free gas in a non heated garage for the winter? Would this prevent oxidation and the other negative effects mentioned in this video?

    Gabriel CoccoGabriel CoccoPrieš 15 val
  • "Like a dog park after a snow melt..." lol

    schnitzjrschnitzjrPrieš 16 val
  • Nice Shining references throughout :) And bloody good info.

    Thorbjørn RussoThorbjørn RussoPrieš 17 val
  • I live in Southeast Asia, I always hope there's winter here, but I really don't want to deal with all these winter problem 😅

    hohoho hohohoho hoPrieš dieną
  • Chevron 94 no ethanol

    G TG TPrieš 3 dienas
  • Non ethanol for me in my bikes. No worries? Heh

    Davey TDavey TPrieš 5 dienų
  • I wonder how marine sta-bil would have fared.

    Markus MMarkus MPrieš 5 dienų
  • Start the bike once a day even if you don't drive it

    gulf city nicholas dancagulf city nicholas dancaPrieš 8 dienų
  • So this only applies for winterizing? I use seafoam to keep my fuel lines and injector clean.

    D L88D L88Prieš 8 dienų
  • Can you do carbon cleaner in motorcycle?

    ah yongah yongPrieš 9 dienų
  • Excellent!....may I suggest you sell this to the "ID" channel.

    FTBY59 Mike DFTBY59 Mike DPrieš 12 dienų
  • Well, poop... My '71 Fiat Spider is currently 3 months deep into it's winter storage with a tank full of seafoam treated gas 😐 My first year trying it, too. Hope she starts...

    BabyBenzBabyBenzPrieš 14 dienų
  • One of the main reasons why I moved to Los Angeles...I get to ride year round

    TransDerwinOverdriveTransDerwinOverdrivePrieš 14 dienų
  • More bike reviews please.

    P KP KPrieš 15 dienų
  • If one has access, aviation 100 LL fuel had zero ethanol, and is a very stable fuel.

    John EastmanJohn EastmanPrieš 17 dienų
  • I have found that having a gas tank full of gas in the winter keeps most of the water out.

    Big Ron WagglesBig Ron WagglesPrieš 17 dienų
  • Thank you for another great and informative feature. Assuming that moisture can only enter via the filler cap, I have placed ‘silica gel crystals’ on the fuel cap. (This is assuming a full tank preventing condensation). Your thoughts please. Peter

    Peter DowsePeter DowsePrieš 18 dienų
  • You didn’t test Berryman

    Mph200plusMph200plusPrieš 20 dienų
  • Ethenol free gas ⛽️ is right it’s the best thing you can do...but also if and when you have the option to turn gas to off position usually also seems to help. Proved this to myself over the years.

    Jerry Jrs GarageJerry Jrs GaragePrieš 21 dieną
  • A CHILLING TALE !

    Matthew SpryMatthew SpryPrieš 21 dieną
  • ah... I just put a thing of Sta-Bil in my 69' Porsche... I'd drive it year round but the salt of the road eat the chassis. Can't let it sit as the fuel eats it from within. Why is the world trying to destroy our classic cars?

    Brett VoigtBrett VoigtPrieš 22 dienas
  • Ahahha nice quality content

    True LegendTrue LegendPrieš 22 dienas
  • That FTR looks so good

    Voz AndersonVoz AndersonPrieš 23 dienas
  • Thankyou for the research and the upload. From an aged UK rider.

    starbar1958starbar1958Prieš 24 dienas
  • Been using Sta-Bil for years, never had to rebuild a carb. I have a 21 year lid emergency generator that I filled with 4 gallons of gas 21 YEARS AGO, I start it about 4 times a year for 5 or 6 minutes. Sta-Bil....NOTHING BEATS IT...NOTHING. PERIOD. ps...when I pull out my 25 year old lawnmower this spring it will start on the 2nd or 3d pull. Sta-Bil 😎🤹🤸🎉🎊

    Davey SmithDavey SmithPrieš 25 dienų
  • We have missed the Canadians hands in our pants, AAhh the good old days, anyway, love from Saudi Arabia, keep going.

    Mr. HootMr. HootPrieš 25 dienų
  • Can you do a review on the hitch rail system to carry a KTM/Beta 350 RR-S without a trailer? The bike is sideways to the back of the vehicle sitting on a plank. I have a 2010 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon and I am not sure if hauling a bike on the 350 pound limit tongue hitch is bad news or I have to get a trailer, trailer insurance, a license plate, and a place to store the trailer. For example Discount Ramps sells the "Black Widow Aluminum Motorcycle Carrier - 400 lb. capacity" - $169. Is this safe or does the name say it all?

    Winston SmithWinston SmithPrieš 26 dienų
  • Well it looks like I'll be mixing stabil and k100

    timothy brogatimothy brogaPrieš 27 dienų
  • An entertaining video Ryan but the science is severely flawed. This video keep popping up everywhere motorcycle related but it is not in fact science. As a chemist that has spent a few years working in the lab of an oil refinery doing product R&D and process control I see a couple of problems with the methodology used in the video. The most glaring is that it is mostly based on the assumption that the addition of ethanol in gasoline is the sole reason that gasoline degrades and causes problems during long-term storage. This misses the main point of fuel stabilizers, which is to prevent oxidation of petroleum molecules. There is emphasis in the video on tank rust but none of the stabilizers claim to protect metal fuel tanks. Petroleum hydrocarbons react with oxygen and ozone resulting in the formation of polymers that are typically called "varnish" when they show up in fuel systems. These polymers are not very soluble in gasoline and settle to the bottom of carb bowls and clog jets, filters and injectors. Varnish and foul-smelling old gas are not as much a problem today as they used to be, with or without adding stabilizers. Today's gasolines contain a combination of detergents and anti-oxidants and are much more stable with age than they used to be. These were the result of pollution rules. Clogged fuel systems burn poorly and emit more SMOG producing chemicals. Detergents and anti-oxidants are required by law to be added to gasoline. One might argue that the need to add a stabilizer to gasoline is no longer needed in much of the world. Ryan here (along with many others) believe that filling the tank with non-ethanol gasoline is the solution for long-term storage. With or without ethanol, all gasoline in the developed world is required to contain oxygenators to reduce pollution. So, ethanol free gasoline contains different oxygenating chemicals, you just don't know what they are! There is no safe and quick way to test the performance of fuels stabilizers. Oxidation takes time and if you try to rush it with flammable liquids you’re literally playing with fire. A better test would be a set of vented containers with various fuel stabilizers added to gasoline and let them sit for a year. After the year is up give them a sniff and pour them through a paper filter to see how much, or how little varnish is formed. Just my $0.02 worth.

    NIGHTBOATNIGHTBOATPrieš 27 dienų
  • I'm a mechanic and I bought SeaFoam just to prove it is BS. My snowblower would not start so after 20 minutes of pulling the cord I thought this is a great time to test it. I put an ounce or two in the tank and a few minutes later it fired on the first pull. Also had the same thing happen with my TW200 in the spring and I had the same result. I'm not saying to use it as a fuel stabilizer but I can't deny that there is some kinda magic in that can.

    Pete BPete BPrieš mėn
  • What's the name of the beautiful Indian motorcycle? Any input is appreciated, thanks!

    RrRrPrieš mėn
  • Murder

    Ian Vergel GarciaIan Vergel GarciaPrieš mėn
  • The end bit though, nice

    EnvyTheRealestEnvyTheRealestPrieš mėn
  • Is seafoam foaming at the mouth? 🧟‍♂️

    Dave auf dem BMWDave auf dem BMWPrieš mėn
  • I thought Seafoam was a cleaner, not a stabilizer.... ?

    Kyle StanfieldKyle StanfieldPrieš mėn
  • Dam youtube decided to not show me your videos for months I had to look ur ch up to see if u posted a video

    William ArnoldWilliam ArnoldPrieš mėn
  • Too creepy to watch with all of the Erie music.. gonna have nightmares about fuel additives, rust in the tank and bike not starting

    Logan UnderwoodLogan UnderwoodPrieš mėn
  • My Aunty told me when I was 8 years old: "The world's a big con". This includes fuel stabilizer.

    Sue DanimSue DanimPrieš mėn
  • Stored my bikes and cars for almost 2 years when I worked overseas with ethanol free gas and Stabil - all started on 1st try (with a good battery)

    Oskar KudlaOskar KudlaPrieš mėn
  • Would running the tank dry help for storage?

    Michael McCannMichael McCannPrieš mėn
  • Excellent ! :-)

    Patrick Le RigolleurPatrick Le RigolleurPrieš mėn
  • Resuscitation :D :D :D OMG you are genius

    Jan KurandaJan KurandaPrieš mėn
  • In the description list, under this video. "For seafoam: Don't" 😂

    Bluefox12 FactsbeforefeelingsBluefox12 FactsbeforefeelingsPrieš mėn
  • Why not just empty the tank and go get some fresh fuel in the spring? Would probaply be cheaper also.

    LENNIM_LENNIM_Prieš mėn
  • I love this video and have watched it a few times. It's highly informative AND incredibly well done, as always for FortNine. BUT, I've come to think Ryan's conclusion is wrong. He says, "If there were some magic potion . . . it's be included." Not really. Fuel is formulated for cars, who don't store their vehicles for the winter. They keep right on driving. What's the one thing nearly all car drivers care about when it comes to gas? That it be as cheap as possible. Additives cost money to add. So unless it is mandated by government regulations, no oil company is going to voluntarily make their gas more costly to make. Especially not if only, what 1% of the gas sold in a year is going to people who care about winter storage and phase separation. So my takeaway from this video is to shift to K100. The pictures of rust generated by the untreated gas and most of the other additives is scary!

    Aaron DonovanAaron DonovanPrieš mėn
  • Should do an in-depth scientific analysis of similar nature on those questionable fuel system cleaner additives that you put in the tank. Love the professional and scientific testing/analysis done adds alot to the vide.

    Alec JacksonAlec JacksonPrieš mėn
  • so I shouldn't use stabiliser?

    Cowabunga dude!Cowabunga dude!Prieš mėn
    • @FortNine Roger that! I shall be on the hunt! many thanks :) edit: ps, subbed!

      Cowabunga dude!Cowabunga dude!Prieš mėn
    • If you can get ethanol-free gas, then yep, no stabilizer! ~RF9

      FortNineFortNinePrieš mėn
  • This man could narrate anything and i would watch it

    Joey RohrbaughJoey RohrbaughPrieš mėn
  • Another fun video from FortNine. I always enjoy Ryan's work. As a chemist that has spent a few years working in the lab of an oil refinery doing product R&D and process control I see a couple of problems with the methodology used in the video. The most glaring is that it is mostly based on the assumption that the addition of ethanol in gasoline is the sole reason that gasoline degrades and causes problems during long-term storage and misses the main point of fuel stabilizers, which is to prevent oxidation of petroleum molecules. None of the stabilizers claim to protect metal fuel tanks. Petroleum hydrocarbons react with oxygen and ozone resulting in the formation of polymers that are typically called "varnish" when they show up in fuel systems. These polymers are not very soluble in gasoline and settle to the bottom of carb bowls and clog filters and injectors. Varnish and foul-smelling old gas are not as much a problem today as they used to be, with or without adding stabilizers. Today's gasolines contain a combination of detergents and anti-oxidants and are much more stable with age than they used to be. One might argue that the need to add a stabilizer to gasoline is no longer needed in much of the world. Ryan and many others believe that filling the tank with non-ethanol gasoline is the solution for long-term storage. With or without ethanol, all gasoline in the developed world is required to contain oxygenators to reduce pollution. So, ethanol free gasoline contains a different oxygenating chemical, you just don't know what it is. There is no safe and quick way to test the performance of fuels stabilizers. Oxidation takes time and if you try to rush it with flammable liquids you’re literally playing with fire. A real test would be a set of vented containers with various fuel stabilizers added to gasoline and let them sit for a year. After the year is up give them a sniff and pour them through a paper filter to see how much, or how little varnish is formed.

    Wayne KrafftWayne KrafftPrieš mėn
  • Great video! Would premium fuel mixed with an ethanol reducer/eliminator additive be equal as good, or better than ethanol free gas? Ethanol free gas, aka “recreation fuel” in the States, is quite often only 90 octane whereas premium gasoline mixed with 10% ethanol is 93 octane.

    RJRJPrieš mėn
  • been using stabil, atleast now I know why I will keep using it. Great video.

    ElliotElliotPrieš mėn
  • While impressive looking, your tests are giving false results... Been using SeaFoam for 14 years, and every Minnesota Spring, the bikes start right up, as if they've been sitting for two weeks, not five months, in an unheated garage. Three carbureted bikes, across 14 years. Blatantly false information, based on real-world experiences. Haven't had a carb-rebuild in 5+ years, using SeaFoam'ed gas (ethanol and non-ethanol). Never had an issue starting them up. Run great, no problems whatsoever. Back to the drawing board for your "experiments" -- your testing criteria is invalid, and misleading. Cheers!

    Bruce LaueBruce LauePrieš mėn
  • Congratulations on the 1 million plus subscribers! ... Another great video where we actually learn something important. Keep up the wonderful entertainment.

    SilentwatchSilentwatchPrieš mėn
  • oorrrrrr did u forget the kill switch.......

    James WittamJames WittamPrieš mėn
  • Never watched this channel before and Im blown away by how good this is. I will be back for another!

    TheTech9TheTech9Prieš mėn
  • Please do a clean, wax polish review '):):) plzzzz

    Benni BBenni BPrieš mėn
    • As in rank the best cleaning products, and also how to buff out scratches best product for polish etc.

      Benni BBenni BPrieš mėn
  • Would starting the bike weekly eliminate these problems?

    Stipe MarićStipe MarićPrieš mėn
  • So K100 or Stable

    SpencerSpencerPrieš mėn
  • What is about test Oil mix Gas? Will you test reliable and please add Amsoil Saber list.

    Alexy RodionovAlexy RodionovPrieš mėn
  • Wait min...... (Taryl Fixes All) done test that K100 fuel treatment fail???? Because have little rust inside carburetor

    Alexy RodionovAlexy RodionovPrieš mėn
  • Very clever, creative, effective way to inform us ... thank you!!

    VV atTee'sVV atTee'sPrieš mėn
  • DAMN! One of my friends told me to put sea foam in my bike. He said he puts it in everything! Never again. What about octane boosters? do they work?

    OVERCOME8OVERCOME8Prieš mėn
  • Your videos are a real joy to watch!

    blaowyblaowyPrieš mėn
  • Just got Startron. I'm only gonna winterize for about two months though, should I be alright?

    TonberryGamesTonberryGamesPrieš mėn
  • I like to put Lucas Fuel Injector cleaner in mine. And try to start them a couple times a winter.

    Grant DuBridgeGrant DuBridgePrieš mėn
  • I love watching videos of thunderstorms and then I listen to music I like like delta parole or metallica! Nothing better and more relaxing like that!

    jetlag4freejetlag4freePrieš mėn
  • One important thing that is not being considered are that fuel tanks are closed and sealed vessels. Looking at what I consider to be a worse case scenario where you open you nearly empty fuel tank in Florida on the most humid day of the year and take in a large volume of saturated air. Then you close the tank and every drop of that moisture comes out of the air due to being exposed to below zero temps. Based on the air being able to hold about 0.027 grams of water to a gram of air, assuming a 20 liter tank the absolute max amount of water you will see in the tank is 0.6615 ml or 0.022 oz, a tiny tiny amount. That's why simple precautions of filling your tank, adding a little isopropyl will make any issues a non event, as the amount of water with a full tank in a less humid environment is probably 1/20 - 1/50 of the number above. Any third year engineering student who had to take thermodynamics can calculate this from a table like I did. Reality is ethanol is here to stay, has a lot of positive benefits and is not the cause of all evil in an engine.

    Paul ChandlerPaul ChandlerPrieš mėn
  • Just run ur tank dry

    Richard DrinkwalterRichard DrinkwalterPrieš mėn
  • I really love your videos they are really amazing, that’s maybe the best channel of motorcycle. But can you please enable the automatic English subtitling like your other videos ? It will make things more easier for me, thanks. 🙏😌

    DomovoyDomovoyPrieš mėn
  • Where's the Lucas Safeguard ethanol fuel conditioner additive?

    matt8863matt8863Prieš mėn
  • And yet you use IPONE in your "winterize" video?

    JamesJamesPrieš mėn
    • That's probably why at the end of the vid he subtly revealed he was the "murderer" haha

      BabyBenzBabyBenzPrieš 14 dienų
  • What happened to your auto-captions? I've been waiting for captions forever and it never appears, contrary to your other older videos!

    TimIT EnduroTimIT EnduroPrieš mėn
  • Ride it...it will ride for ages !! Thats what my Dad told me

    SWARBENDU DASRAJAKSWARBENDU DASRAJAKPrieš mėn
  • Great info. Great video

    steaming terdsteaming terdPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • 10/10. I live in Queensland, Aus where it’s never too cold to ride, but I still watched the whole thing. No one is doing better content on LTworlds

    Andy KAndy KPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Do you have a video on the best way to winterize a motorcycle?? If not, that would be really great and I imagine it would prevent a lot of dead bikes

    TomTomPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • The best doing it on LTworlds. In any genre. For any interest. Glad you guys chose motorcycles. Bravo.

    Bert DavisBert DavisPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Great video.. my only question is when you are referring to "storage," what are you defining that as? Someone who is storing their bike for 2-3 months, 1 year, 2 years? When do these stabilizers become effective or ineffective based on LENGTH of time stored? I've used Sta-bil for many years, never had an issue. However, our typical storage time for Winter here where I live is 3-4 months. But what if you were storing your bike for longer than a year?

    Airtouch67Airtouch67Prieš 2 mėnesius
  • Which netflix series you put in the begining.?

    UpsurgeUpsurgePrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Love the video and your presentation. One question: what do you think of Helix 5in1?

    Sonny DoubledaySonny DoubledayPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Blinded by Science, Again!

    Doug NashDoug NashPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • So... empty the tank of all gas before storage?

    marcusmaximusmarcusmaximusPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Better just to empty the tank ?

    TaruTaruPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • How to take ethanol out of gas,,take a clear 64oz. juice bottle , pour in about 4 or 5 oz, of water mark it,,,,,fill it the rest of the way with gas to about 2 or 3 inches from the top put the cap on and shake the bottle 10 or 15 seconds, take the cap off and let rest an hour or two ,,the ethanol will attach itself to the water and settle on the bottom,,( all the water above the line is how much ethanol you extracted !) ,,then get a small siphon hose tilt the bottle so all the water/ethanol settles in the corner and siphon it off AND all your left with is PURE GAS ,,you will find it has about 10% more power ( you will fell in the seat of your pants !!) and you will get 10% better mileage , the engine will rev faster, more and quicker top end ,it's a happy motor, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Merry Christmas !!!!

    kurt mingeskurt mingesPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • FILL YOUR TANK BEFORE YOUR STORAGE,,,THESE ARE NOT FOR WATER,, THESE ARE TO STOP GAS FROM GOING BAD,,,,NOT WATER,,,,, 0 OUT OF 10

    Stew MilesStew MilesPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • This guy is way to good for a youtube channel

    tehpanda64100tehpanda64100Prieš 2 mėnesius
  • I always fill the tanks with Shell premium and Sta-bil for the winter. For carbureted bikes I drain the fuel bowls. For fuel injected bikes, after filling with premium and Sta-bil I take a short ride to get it into the whole fuel system then top up the fuel tank to minimize condensation. This has always worked for me.

    BobBobPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Isn't HEET in the yellow bottle 99% methanol? I wish you'd tested it.

    hacuna matatahacuna matataPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Quick thought. If you use the best stabilizer and have your tank topped off and pinch your vent closed would you still have evaporation?

    KyleKylePrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Startron made my R6 unable to start after just one day.

    Colby ChurchColby ChurchPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • If fuel stabilizers are crap, why did you recommend using it? ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/tmuK0dyVeK98pZM.html

    Admiral BeezAdmiral BeezPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • I'm seriously awaiting your next modular helmet review

    CIPHERCIPHERPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Oy Fortnine, I've seen this video already but I'm back and here to say I'm waiting for your next video. When's it coming out?🤪

    Yeffter 627Yeffter 627Prieš 2 mėnesius
  • your videos are getting ridiculous!

    Nicholas J HeinzNicholas J HeinzPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Yeah, fuel stabilizer... Couldn’t care less. But it’s Ryan, so I’m gonna watch it anyway :D

    Pan PeStowskiPan PeStowskiPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • such fun videos! you definitely put thought and a lot of work into each video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge in a professional and honest way.

    benevolentiabenevolentiaPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • In Canada, Shell and Esso high octane gas is Ethanol free.....;)

    SWKSWKPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Hey Ryan, I really love your videos - maybe you can test some electric motorcycles like "zero motorcycles" or others and compare them to "normal" bikes

    Eric JehartEric JehartPrieš 2 mėnesius
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