3 Ways Motorcycle Manufacturers Trick You

9 Sau 2020
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Ever wondered why stock tires wear out so fast? Does your bike feel heavier and less powerful than advertised? These sneaky tricks are to blame!
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  • Bought a new Metzler back tire, for my 2013 Raider, here in Jacksonville,N.C. ,from the only new Japanese bike dealer in the county, kind of in a bind, $300.00. Didn't last 1000 miles of regular road riding. Oh well, then I took my time, got another brand. We shall see.

    Mike SokolowMike SokolowPrieš 6 val
  • Good job

    R CarvalhoR CarvalhoPrieš 17 val
  • Yep.

    Razz RasmussenRazz RasmussenPrieš dieną
  • "really...what you gonna do?" do not buy new, always second hand.

    RezRezPrieš dieną
  • I just want to ride a bike

    Arn doesArn doesPrieš 2 dienas
  • The tire trick is inverted here in Brazil, OEM tires are famous for lasting about twice as long as the same brand/model on the aftermarket, maybe they sell even shittier tires for stupidly high prices for the consumers.

    bodifxbodifxPrieš 2 dienas
  • Your presentations are truly professional. The information you share with us shows an obvious university education with likely degrees in science and mechanical engineering. We are tremendously fortunate to be a part of this educative course of factual revelations. I don't mean to be too wordy, but I wanted to represent what you are doing accurately. Or at least as best I could. Thanks Ryan.

    Susan.Palet9Susan.Palet9Prieš 3 dienas
  • Yayyyy Brazil ❤️

    Racing LegendsRacing LegendsPrieš 3 dienas
  • Young man you are very good at what you do. Thank you so much. Please keep them coming. Both funny and informative good combination for the viewer.

    mark mathermark matherPrieš 4 dienas
  • "It'll rip my arms off at idle" / "suddenly get to use it" (while gesturing that the handlebars are pulling). Maybe I'm cheeky, but that feels like you're feeling torque.

    Alby KingAlby KingPrieš 5 dienų
  • Na car tire thank you dark side

    Scared Of GhostsScared Of GhostsPrieš 5 dienų
  • Yet another Brilliant video Fortnine, Thank You

    Marty CechMarty CechPrieš 5 dienų
  • This is bs... I bought pirelli sportscomp from pirelli dealer after my interceptor tyres were worn out.. I thought I would get better tyres.. But guess what, they were exactly the same tyres... And when I asked them they said of course the tyres on the interceptor were the same they measured the tread depth of the rear tyre in front of me and it turned out to be 5mm and the front was 3 mm, after returning home I mailed pirelli and and got a reply that their radial tyres were manufactured in Brazil and that interceptor used radial tyres, the factory has nothing to do with the quality of the tyre and its rubber, as all the factories produced the same quality tyres..

    Palash KalePalash KalePrieš 5 dienų
  • Torque gets you away from the stoplight. Horsepower gets you away from the cops.

    Rich MonksRich MonksPrieš 7 dienų
  • Question ....I'm in Maine in the USA ...what the hell is a center- meter ? Is it the thing on my house for the electric company to bone me on cost! God dam Canadians and European s ....also Russians and Asia !!!Africa and south Americans you all making this up! Think the USA and Burma got it right with the hole measurement deal lol

    S leighS leighPrieš 7 dienų
  • what is pie

    RozaRozaPrieš 10 dienų
  • Hey... don’t dis my great grandfather’s horse.

    WoodstaSWoodstaSPrieš 13 dienų
  • Awsome! Now to go lower the price at a dealership

    MrCouragousMrCouragousPrieš 15 dienų
  • of course the inferior product is coming from Brazil Not surprizing. Might as well be coming from Mexico

    Anderson BrentAnderson BrentPrieš 15 dienų
  • Horsepower = how fast you hit the wall! Torque = how far you move the wall!

    John DanleyJohn DanleyPrieš 18 dienų
  • Fun fact: you can sell your left nut for 30k

    thatsenseijoshthatsenseijoshPrieš 18 dienų
  • But it does feel different if I climb a hill in a very easy gear as opposed to the same hill in a very fast gear. In the very easy gear I would not be expecting much traction. In the fast gear, I would be enjoying feeling that traction. I do love expensive tires.

    adriaan nikkenadriaan nikkenPrieš 19 dienų
  • Torque curve on a duke 1290 has to pretty perfect because it feels amazing

    itskaydobroitskaydobroPrieš 21 dieną
  • Nice

    lanksishlanksishPrieš 22 dienas
  • I have no idea what you think you're talking about. But I can feel the difference between more torque down low add more horsepower up high on anyting I ride. I can also tell the difference on automobiles. Even though I do understand what you are trying to convey. But if I have an engine that puts out a hundred horsepower that is putting out 50 lb of torque at 2000 RPM and doesn't put out a hundred horsepower until it's at 5000 RPM, feels completely different then an engine it only puts out 30 foot pounds of torque at 2000 RPM with one hundred horsepower at 6500 RPM.

    44 Hawk44 HawkPrieš 23 dienas
  • An extremely and, informative watch 👍

    Graham IvisonGraham IvisonPrieš 23 dienas
  • Just started watching your videos and every single video is very informative. Please don't call it foot-pound instead of pound-foot.

    Abdullah Al-MunimAbdullah Al-MunimPrieš 24 dienas
  • i wish i watched this guy when i was in 9th or 10th grade and learning this math he would have made he want to remember it lmao

    Josh StewartJosh StewartPrieš 25 dienų
  • 3 ways Mount your bike left hand side, Right hand side mount And 3rd Indian style .

    Ross BerryRoss BerryPrieš 26 dienų
  • This is what they should teach kids in school , How to be prepared for all the fake stuff around them. I'm glad I'm old and have seen some better days , these kids of today are in for a hard time.

    bebobismbebobismPrieš 27 dienų
  • You made me super nervous when you sat on your bike from the right side.

    2020 MT-092020 MT-09Prieš 27 dienų
  • Who cares? More mass means you get more for your money.

    Dar TiceDar TicePrieš 27 dienų
  • So, does that mean the Pirelli's that came on my Indian Scout were really shit made in a Mogadishu sweat shop? In any case, I got 15k out of them.

    JustMeJustMePrieš 27 dienų
  • I think when you talk about the "best case" Horsepower and Torque stats being combined would lead you to the MT-09 Motor. Sincerely an XSR900 owner. lol.

    Ryan ConradRyan ConradPrieš 28 dienų
  • When the physics teacher says show your work, he does.

    lwolf1952lwolf1952Prieš 29 dienų
  • Example, Dunlop D404s vs 401-402

    Green GoatGreen GoatPrieš mėn
  • Hi would love you to do clip about oil viscosity, and what engine oil.. can we use different viscosity oil depends on riding season summer , etc.. Thank you

    SL M.SL M.Prieš mėn
  • Haven't ridden for a few years now, but I love this channel. It's holding me off until I can buy another bike. Great work.

    haroon walizadehharoon walizadehPrieš mėn
  • what tires would you recommend for Yamaha Serow 250 cc final edition ??? (front and rear tire) Please advise, trust you and your expertise !!! Thank you.

    Hatori HansoHatori HansoPrieš mėn
  • Another variable that matters with respect to HP/torque is time. Not the time measured by a stopwatch, but the time required by each rider to appreciate the real-world power delivery nuances. For most riders it may take days to appreciate something like a Kawasaki Versys 650, but months to appreciate almost any Moto-Guzzi or even something like a Honda VFR. I can’t see any manufacturers being able to supply useful metrics explaining the rider/bike/environment connections. As the cliché goes, not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted.

    Walter WilkinsWalter WilkinsPrieš mėn
  • Recieved Continental GT 650 fitted with Ceat Zoom Cruz F today from the Factory. Can't Find it's performance or cost figures anywhere. Definitely a Downgrade. Want to Find Cost of Both- Pirelli Phantom Sportscomp and CEAT Zoom Cruz F

    Shikhar SinghShikhar SinghPrieš mėn
  • GVWR is another. Many dealers can't tell you the number, and you need to combine that along with the wet weight you mentioned above, to find out how much crap & how many people you can safely carry.

    Baggsy BaggsyBaggsy BaggsyPrieš mėn
  • reputable | ˈrepyədəb(ə)l |

    N NicholsonN NicholsonPrieš mėn
  • A motorcycle riding transformer, amazing.

    supersportrydersupersportryderPrieš mėn
  • It's quite unfair compare a radial tire (the one made in Breuberg) with a x-ply tire (made in Brazil). They have completely different descriptions, despite the same name. It's not a matter of budget, they're made for different purposes.

    Nathan PetrinNathan PetrinPrieš mėn
  • First video of yours I’ve disliked, because I had 6 adverts in about 3 minutes like wtf😂

    marcusLHallmarcusLHallPrieš mėn
  • Which motorcycle puts out the closest to ideal measurements of HP and Torque against RPM?

    Crispin SavioCrispin SavioPrieš mėn
  • Harley Davidsons have a lot of torque their Owners think they are fast until they get their doors blown off by a Metric bike with 1/2 the displacment motor .. partly becaus the Metric bike is much lighter but also because the Metric bike has a much higher engine operating range..

    Mike SkidmoreMike SkidmorePrieš mėn
  • I would love an episode on aftermarket tyre choice- being an adventure rider - trusty DR650- what are the points we should watch after? Love all the info!!

    Colin MartiniColin MartiniPrieš mėn
  • I'm unsure of my feelings on your Power vs Torque in real world numbers, simply because my Rocket 3 Roadster is 150hp and 150ft lb of torque...so no, I cannot tell the difference, the things just GOES.

    penndotpalpenndotpalPrieš mėn
  • I love this channel, however your comments regarding tyres is wrong, and has been proved wrong.... on what evidence do you base your comments?

    Ian SeedIan SeedPrieš mėn
  • Thanks for still having the nuts to expose bullshit! Thank you! Sub earned!

    MarlonMarlonPrieš mėn
  • Did your mom give you that sweater? Asking for a friend. Its ugly lol

    rick brick bPrieš mėn
  • If you roll onto one bathroom scale on one wheel and then the other you will read the exact same weight. You clearly have the physics understanding to draw a a free body diagram and do the math.

    Nigel BessNigel BessPrieš mėn
  • You are the best

    masood rowshanmasood rowshanPrieš mėn
  • ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/2ZFq1a-GiKZ2lps.html

    Beast IndiaBeast IndiaPrieš mėn
  • So you compare the front tyre thread depth with another rear tyre thread 😁

    S zoteS zotePrieš mėn
  • Is this a physics class🤔

    NIDHINNIDHINPrieš mėn
  • What an absolute load of rubbish.

    Yama PimpYama PimpPrieš mėn
  • Nice video :) but if you are comparing two in line 4 cylinder engine with the torque and BHP is irrelevant but if you have in line 4 cylinder engine with 100 BHP and V2 with 100 BHP the torque will be much different so maybe manufacturers in some ads give you BHPs and in others torque :)

    KSMilo88KSMilo88Prieš mėn
  • Well, you don't feel the torque itself, but the chagne in torque. If you accelerate in the same gear, you get more and more rpm. The more rpm, the more power. But the faster you get, the more power you need to accelerate for the same amount. That's why you accelerate faster in second gear than in fifth gear (even without wind resistance). So the rpm cancels out when you only consider acceleration. What's left is the torque. So a rising torque in higher revs means higher accerleration in higher revs

    hanspeter2210hanspeter2210Prieš mėn
  • he looks like. telugu superstar MAHESH BABU🔥🔥🔥

    himdrhimdrPrieš mėn
  • My nine year old son and I love your awesome videos but the swearing prohibits us from doing so because of the cussing you use every once and a while. Thanks

    Eric Grand-MaisonEric Grand-MaisonPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Want to know how much your bike weighs? Ask a metal recycling center if you can ride your bike on the scales. My Sportster Roadster 2005 weighs 600lbs with 2.3 gallons of gas in a peanut size tank.

    ScorpiiKhanScorpiiKhanPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • third chart is a fz07

    DDPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Agreed!! I've been a heavy truck mechanic most of my life and seen people go crazy over horsepower ratings. I tell them to throw the horsepower ratings in the trash because true performance isn't wrapped up in a number figure that has very little to do with real life.

    Phantom RiderPhantom RiderPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • How can you claim the lever length is always r when it varies from 0 to r and for every second cycle there is zero torque? At TDC the lever is zero.

    exponent mantissaexponent mantissaPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Dude. Time to pin a disclaimer to this video! Yes, there’s a gross inaccuracy right at the top, but it’s otherwise still an excellent and thought-provoking piece of content. Don’t let your outstanding reputation and credibility be sullied by a single error....

    Steve RolfeSteve RolfePrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Full of wrong information - watch this instead. Ryan is wrong. ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/vouK25yhl7VjnLA.html

    Fergus JohnstonFergus JohnstonPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • I made it to 3:49. This is the first vid I’ve watched, and I can’t image why I’d watch another. Lots of useless chatter from a poncy dick. I can wait for your side stand bolt to sheer while your sitting on your bike. 🦑

    scott1hnscott1hnPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • FortNine and commenters please refer to Stuart Fillingham's retort to the claims about the Interceptor's Pirelli's, "News on NORTON and Pirelli Phantoms Sportscomp tyres. Is RE tricking you?" It appears that Ryan may have goofed and compared an over the counter rear tire to an OEM Interceptor front tire. All Pirelli Phantoms apparently have 3mm tread depth on the front tires and 5mm on the rear no matter where you get them (OEM or over the counter). After doing the necessary research, Stuart pointed out that the Interceptors have spoked wheels and thus use cross-plain ply tires. He found out that the only Pirelli plants making cross-plain Phantoms are in Brazil and Indonesia. Radial Phantoms are made elsewhere. It seems this issue should be revisited.

    Doug FieldingDoug FieldingPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • We can see who did a degree in physics, eh. Brill as usual.

    TinkertimeTinkertimePrieš 2 mėnesius
  • No no no ,you are wrong with the tires : ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/vouK25yhl7VjnLA.html&ab_channel=stuartfillingham

    Moto TomMoto TomPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • 1st video I've seen from y'all. Thumbs up.

    mrdanielmillarmrdanielmillarPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • The motorcycle feels torque before it moves... This is what makes the tire break friction for a burn out 125 ft*lb of torque is not applied at rear wheel, but rather from the crank, thru 1st gear(usually from a stop) and then the net mechanical gear ratio between the engine sprocket and then the rear sprocket. Most of your other stuff is correct, but you really missed this one. Sorry. Second example, how else can you drop the clutch to pop and pivot a front wheel over a log or such torque from a stop is what lifts the front wheel

    Toby DarkinsToby DarkinsPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • This was better than engineering explained

    Prestia2011Prestia2011Prieš 2 mėnesius
  • Great video! The tyre bit was an eye opener for me.

    john schlesingerjohn schlesingerPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • @TheMats Thanks for that. I've watched it, and agree with you.

      john schlesingerjohn schlesingerPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • Check out the latest video from Stuart Fillingham. He makes a very convincing case the F9 got that part very wrong, but definitely, check out the facts yourself.

      TheMatsTheMatsPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • I normally admire what you do but it seemed to me that in this particular case you've dropped a clanger. Your reply will be of interest. 1. Tread depth. You showed one tyre with a supposed tread depth of 3mm and another of 5mm. However you didn't say that one looked like a front tyre and the other a back tyre. The front tyre having 3mm and the rear having 5mm. Perfectly normal accepted practice as the rear does all the driving. 2. Made in Germany or made in Brazil ? Well Pirelli say their factory in Germany makes all the rear tyres for this model and Brazil makes all the front.

    David JebsonDavid JebsonPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • Interesting!

      NalinNalinPrieš mėn
  • Hmm... First the 390 adventure now this... RyanF9 seems to goofing up facts and doesn't seem to understand the gravity of his deeds

    Siddhant PatilSiddhant PatilPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • OEM car parts are better than after-market parts - always! Especially tyres.

    MH0709MH0709Prieš 2 mėnesius
  • Thank you 😁

    Idham AryanggonoIdham AryanggonoPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Hmmmm?

    RonnRonnPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • A human can make 5 hp in the best horse can do is 15

    Eli OutdoorsEli OutdoorsPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • So i assume that rear held up must be a radial to have been made in Germany. So it cannot not be off an interceptor, as is sort of implied .

    stillshakinstillshakinPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Bullshit! front tires have 3mm, REAR tires have 5 so you were comparing front and rear. Pirelli has factories in different countries Brazil, China, Germany etc. same tires. Sloppy "research" You should be ashamed Fortnine! See this video ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/vouK25yhl7VjnLA.html

    Aaron JabenAaron JabenPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • No need to be ashamed but corrections do need to be made, and lets all move on.

      funkthatfunkthatPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Ryan you need to check out Stuart Fillingham's video from earlier today disputing everything you said about Royal Enfield and Pirelli tyres

    Jeremy ThomasJeremy ThomasPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Huge fan of the FortNine videos, but to paraphrase Ricky Ricardo, "Ryan, you got some 'splainin to do" about the Pirellis. Stuart Fillingham just took you to task, albeit without mentioning your name. I hope you did your homework on the subject and can counter his explanation because, otherwise, you don't come out looking so great.

    TheMatsTheMatsPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Who is right about the Pirelli Phantoms you or uncle Stu?

    Rich TurnipRich TurnipPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • He literally showed video evidence of the lower tread depth.

      AlphariusAlphariusPrieš mėn
  • It turns out the Pirelli Phantoms have 3mm tread depth on the front tyre and 5mm tread depth on the rear tyre no matter where you buy them from.

    Strideo1Strideo1Prieš 2 mėnesius
    • @Strideo1 Ooo... Now I am to be blamed. Whatever ...

      L.V-RiderL.V-RiderPrieš mėn
    • @L.V-Rider Yes, I failed to articulate the circumstances and manner in which treads help with traction but that wasn't the purpose of my comment. You could have just demonstrated your point immediately and contributed to the discussion instead of making a pointlessly adversarial remark.

      Strideo1Strideo1Prieš mėn
    • @Strideo1 They know why they make street tyres the way they do. Thread grooves size and depth is for the tyre to remove water on a wet road from underneath the rest of the tyre surface area so it can have direct grip on the road surface and not aquaplane. The manufacturers also make track tyres with no grooves, thus no thread groove depth, in order to have more tyre surface area in contact with the road surface. On dry surface grooved tyres has less grip than smooth tyres. Surely you should know this. Now compare this with your 1st statement above. ("The rear tyre being the drive tyre gets a deeper tread because you want it to have more grip for launch. ") NO, grooves is to disperse of the water. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_tread

      L.V-RiderL.V-RiderPrieš mėn
    • @L.V-Rider I guess a major tyre manufacturer like Perelli (among many others) don't know anything either because that's how they makes these tyres. And no, it doesn't matter if you get the ones made in Germany or the ones made in Brazil; it's 3mm tread depth in the front and 5mm tread depth on the back on these tyres making Ryan's point about the tread depth totally moot. Now if he were comparing the German radial tyres vs Brazilian bias-ply maybe he'd have a point but he didn't even seem to know about that.

      Strideo1Strideo1Prieš mėn
    • ​@Strideo1 Obviously you know nothing about thread depth and grip.

      L.V-RiderL.V-RiderPrieš mėn
  • Ryan, Do you intend to revisit the article about the Pirellis on the Royal Enfield in light of Stuart Fillingham's recent LTworlds video?

    Sir CasticSir CasticPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • @funkthat Agreed. Ryan does a lot of great work, but we all make mistakes. If he made one here, he should acknowledge it, apologize, and we can all move on.

      TheMatsTheMatsPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • Coming from Stuart Filis video as well this needs to be addressed and any mistakes made will not be the end of anybodys career but for the betterment of the culture, they need to be corrected if need be. Thanks.

      funkthatfunkthatPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/vouK25yhl7VjnLA.html. GUYS HE IS BULLSHITTING ABOUT THE TYRES! PLEASE WATCH THIS TO UNDERSTAND THE FOLLY!

    Varun VJVarun VJPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • why don't you watch this before accusing the manufacturers of conning us ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/vouK25yhl7VjnLA.html

    charlie fergusoncharlie fergusonPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • I was curious who Uncle Stu was referring to....please take the time to get your facts straight Sir.

    Ralph DsouzaRalph DsouzaPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • Who?

      AlphariusAlphariusPrieš mėn
    • Uncle Stu should probably work on his education. If he has the time to complain about his betters, he has the time to work on his own issues. Of course, if he's got enough time to reach Fortnines level of expertise...

      Charles QuinCharles QuinPrieš mėn
    • ?

      Prophet Profit !Prophet Profit !Prieš mėn
  • Radial v cross ply tyre, what type of idiot makes a video about all this yet has no idea about it.. ffs who listens to this idiot!

    Jesus H ChristJesus H ChristPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/vouK25yhl7VjnLA.html This channel makes fun of your assessment of the Royal enfield tires.

    Sacha NSacha NPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Your research (about pirelli tyres Brazil plant makes cross ply and German and china plant makes and triumph use radial tyres for bonneville that made in China there are also sub standard)is very bad and you should be ashamed off your self

    Vaibhav KVaibhav KPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • You may want to watch this in regard to Royal Enfield tyres. ltworlds.info/home/vaizdo-ra-as/vouK25yhl7VjnLA.html Just saying...

    Andrew StubbsAndrew StubbsPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Take everything on LTworlds with a pinch of salt I guess. Pirelli have vehemently denied this stated info. And measuring a rear tyre against a front tyre will generally show more tread on the back, as that's the one doing the most work.

    memsybabememsybabePrieš 2 mėnesius
    • @Kristofer Karch...on that I agree with you. But you can physically see in the video, the tyre he briefly holds up as his proof of concept, is a rear tyre, and he compares it to the front tyre on the bike. Not a major issue, and I'm sure he's not trying to deceive, but could have done with a little more research before stating it as fact.

      memsybabememsybabePrieš 2 mėnesius
    • I havent done the research myself yet but I can promise you this: no manufacturer would admit to doing that. And now that its in the open if they were in fact doing it before they sure af arent doing it anymore.

      Kristofer KarchKristofer KarchPrieš 2 mėnesius
    • correct. This video is bogus

      Aaron JabenAaron JabenPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Lol!!! That intro!

    manskimixmanskimixPrieš 2 mėnesius
  • Please- less hand motion, less animation.

    York BleyerYork BleyerPrieš 2 mėnesius
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