3 Laws that Endanger Motorcycle Riders

29 Lap 2020
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No surprise to anyone paying attention but it’s not all rainbows and sunshine when it comes to laws and motorcycles. Do some traffic laws actively increase your risk factor instead of minimizing it?
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  • To answer some common questions on the first one: Crashing due to failure to turn your ABS back ON requires a rider to: 1.) Disable it in the first place, which beginners rarely do. 2.) Forget one’s settings when rejoining the pavement, despite the obvious visual and tactile reminders that the surface has changed. 3.) Fail to notice the bright orange (ABS) light on the dash, which is another (more sensible) requirement of UNGTR 3 whenever ABS is disabled. And 4.) apply the brakes poorly enough to crash. All this requires a level of incompetence so high that it is actually less common. On the flip side, crashing due to failure to turn your ABS back OFF is easy. Off-roaders stop their bikes all the time - to consult a map, to chat with other riders, or simply because they stalled or tipped over. It’s common to quickly restart the bike and forget that ABS has automatically re-armed itself. There are no external reminders because the riding surface hasn’t changed, and the dash warning lights are now unlit (off-roaders rarely look at the dash anyway, since they are typically standing). On top of all this, no amount of braking skill can prevent a crash when ABS is working against you. My conclusion is that the law is poor, because it serves an unlikely level of incompetence at the cost of causing averagely-competent riders to crash. Most ADV folks will tell you that it has happened to them. Bear in mind that this does not affect the vast majority of motorcycles, which do not have switchable ABS in the first place. ~RF9

    FortNineFortNinePrieš mėn
    • To be fair, this law is to protect idiots and complacent commuters, not you

      SpecialopsdaveSpecialopsdavePrieš 6 dienų
    • @Graeme Wilde I've forgotten to turn my ABS off as many times as I've forgotten to turn it back on... that is, at least once per ride! The visual cue argument is pretty flimsy, maybe it's obvious on some bikes but on the 701 you won't notice with a quick glimpse at the speedo...

      TokimobileTokimobilePrieš 7 dienų
    • My bike doesn't have abs. Never had a problem with 70K miles. Odd.

      Wee Strom CO GuyWee Strom CO GuyPrieš 18 dienų
    • All that is needed is a timer. Re-arm automatically if the bike has been off for more than 3 or 5 minutes. Not if it's been turned off for 1 second.

      Black MarchBlack MarchPrieš mėn
    • Here in South Africa it's legal but only when there is more than one lane

      deahan steyndeahan steynPrieš mėn
  • We can filter in Australia when you have a full license.

    FLEX316FLEX316Prieš 11 val
  • Finally someone sees the problem in ABS just as i do. And i dont have it on my old bike luckily, but i do have it on the car and van i drive, and it´s a double edged sword and couldnt find anyone else who understood this until i saw this video. This is a great channel BTW, I share the good taste for bikes and really enjoy the artistics of the videos wrapped with fine conceptual analysis! Just keep them up!

    GambiniGambiniPrieš 11 val
  • The second idiot (2:49) ended up brain damaged, permanently in a hospital bed. Instead of whining to legalized unsafe riding, demand a filtering lane. I live in Taiwan where (if a cycling lane exists) motorcycles can use them to reach the stop box at the front. 4:20 - Neither can motorcyclists think outside the box. Instead of being in hurry when traffic slows to a crawl, pull over to the side where it's safe. And plan your route better so you avoid heavy traffic.

    Guess UndheitGuess UndheitPrieš 22 val
  • To me I've always thought lane splitting was about the stupidous thing one could do on a bike, then to find out it is actually legal in some states?! How stupid can you be?

    David RegnierDavid RegnierPrieš dieną
  • I rode for forty years without ABS breaks so I don’t think I’ll be killed because I forgot to turn them back on.

    Patrick TurnerPatrick TurnerPrieš 2 dienas
  • Operation of a motor vehicle should always be done with great care, no matter how many wheels.

    themadscientestthemadscientestPrieš 3 dienas
  • Great content fella x

    Amanda-Jayne D. CookeAmanda-Jayne D. CookePrieš 3 dienas
  • Filtering is legal in the UK. Always get some wankers that get arsey about it though. We have a queing culture here.

    Steve BellSteve BellPrieš 4 dienas
  • Lane filtering REALLY needs to be legalized. And then, the idiots in cars told and trained to GET THE FUCK OVER IT

    lyianxlyianxPrieš 4 dienas
  • I absolutely FN HATE HATE HATE loud bikes splitting the lanes and going past my open window with a loud motorcycle .

    eric deborderic debordPrieš 5 dienų
  • In Chile, it's legal for motorbikes and bikes to drive between stopped cars when there's traffic, in a red light or in a stop sign so the biker or motorbiker gets to the stop line in front of the cars. But some cars drivers don't allow you to do that, specially to bikes. There's also the others drives that forces you to get away or between the cars so they can get in the spot by literally throwing the car to you. There's kinda like a war among the drives, the motorbikers, the bikers and the pedestrians.

    Gonzalo ReyesGonzalo ReyesPrieš 5 dienų
  • My 2015 Ducati scrambler leaves abs turned off

    Michael IngersollMichael IngersollPrieš 5 dienų
  • Tea Sippers :D

    João TavaresJoão TavaresPrieš 6 dienų
  • I think a big part on why there are less crashes in some countries more than other is how drivers view Bikers. I currently live in Switzerland where Filtering and Lane splitting are illegal, but slow traffic a lot of the time moves to the right to let bikers through (not always, but a lot of times). While in other countries I rode in, it seems a lot of people think the way you described, like crabs.

    AceofBlueDiamondsAceofBlueDiamondsPrieš 6 dienų
  • I call them anti stop brakes. There's only one place I want them...going fast on a wet highway. My biggest beef with them is this...they should not work under 20mph. Lock up that tire under 20 and stop! But no...we just keep on rolling..and rolling..and rolling....

    Mister BeeMister BeePrieš 6 dienų
  • Years ago in the US, a new head of NHTSA, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration actually recommended rear wheel steer for ALL motorcycles......... Think about that.

    Doug BourdoDoug BourdoPrieš 6 dienų
  • To be fair, lane filtering violates the principle of invisibility training, since someone opening a door or using a left turn hand signal is all it takes to merc you. I nearly did that to a biker once when my left turn signal in my car broke, nearly clotheslined the dude. I still think it should be legal, though, as long as they have their headlights on.

    SpecialopsdaveSpecialopsdavePrieš 6 dienų
  • If you're such an intelligent rider, you should be smart enough to know and remember to turn ABS off when you start the vehicle. It's not like it rearms whenever you come to a stop, it's only after you shut it off.

    SpecialopsdaveSpecialopsdavePrieš 6 dienų
  • Got a hold of Mayor Kennedy Stewart the team messaged me for more information and sent him a bunch of info including this video. Fingers crossed

  • Oh , and by the way; I enjoy these videos. Well done ! Thanks.

    Philippe deRepentignyPhilippe deRepentignyPrieš 7 dienų
  • What is automotive medicene

    Caleb dumeCaleb dumePrieš 8 dienų
  • In Melbourne Australia, motorcycles are allowed to be parked on a footpath as long as they don’t stop pedestrians. This means fare more car park space. Also filtering is legal

    Michael IrishMichael IrishPrieš 8 dienų
  • 1:08 :D

    CycloneWillBackCycloneWillBackPrieš 8 dienų
  • I'm totally out of the loop here considering it's free real estate riding a bike here...

    LLPLLPPrieš 8 dienų
  • Man, you should come to são Paulo and witness lane filtering/splitting extreme level. I mean, as a car driver you constantly have to mind the unending line of bikes speeding 5cm away from your side mirrors.

    guilherme gnipperguilherme gnipperPrieš 8 dienų
  • What is the bike model as seen on 3:25sec into this video??

    John LaraJohn LaraPrieš 9 dienų
  • What endangers motorcyclists most is their obsession with passing every car possible. Just stop being dicks and move WITH the traffic.

    Amancalled AdamAmancalled AdamPrieš 10 dienų
  • I did avoid a serious crash with a car that failed to give way by locking the back wheel and doing a sideway slide to slow down. I never had a bike with ABS.

    Gazza SGazza SPrieš 10 dienų
  • 6:06 buuuurnnn 😂

    Daniel ShinDaniel ShinPrieš 10 dienų
  • Lane filtering, should not be legal in Canada. I live there, and i can tell you from growing up it would be abused 100%. And thats the problem. Its legal that air cooled can pass on the shoulder (theyre paved on our highways before you whine) and most of the "responsible" riders, already know this law, and have a bike meant for it . (Not a goddamned crotch rocket) I dunno, Toronto is full retard on the highways, and traffic jams are caused by failure to merge properly. I think it being illegal for cars to travel long distance in the right lane, freeing up the on and off ramps, would do far more good for traffic than lane filtering would ever do.

    Marion CobrettiMarion CobrettiPrieš 10 dienų
    • @FortNine im not sure, ive never had a bike, good friend and his dad both have air cooled harleys and both said that is lawful, ive been looking for a good 20 minutes now, so far cant find it. Perhaps I have been misinformed Yea im done looking, closest thing i can find it it saying is under circumstances, you can use the shoulder, but i can not verify cooling an air cooled engine as a circumstance. So ill say im wrong so someone doesnt get arrested trying it for science. But it did seem like a legit thing to do, to me

      Marion CobrettiMarion CobrettiPrieš 10 dienų
    • What law are you referring to about air-cooled bikes being able to pass on the shoulder? If that's true, I'm buying one ASAP. ~RF9

      FortNineFortNinePrieš 10 dienų
  • Well i did write and this is the response.... Dear Mr. Pullman, Thank you for contacting me about Maryland traffic laws. I appreciate your sharing your experiences with me and providing feedback. As your federal representative, I am unable to make changes to state policy regarding lane splitting and lane filtering. However, I encourage you to reach out to your state senator, Senator George C. Edwards, and your state delegate, Delegate Michael W. McKay. Senator Edwards can be reached by phone at (410) 841-3565 or by email at george.edwards@senate.state.md.us. Delegate McKay can be reached by phone at (410) 841-3321 or by email at mike.mckay@house.state.md.us. Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me about this important issue. Your comments help me to better represent Maryland's 6th District. If you need further assistance, please call my office at......

    Randy PullmanRandy PullmanPrieš 11 dienų
  • Lane splitting is something I fear most. No idea why someone would ride fast though narrow gaps if they were at a standstill, let alone ones that are moving around

    Daniel WhiteDaniel WhitePrieš 12 dienų
  • They legalized lane filtering here in Utah in summer of 2019. I'm a new rider. I have yet to do it

    D L88D L88Prieš 12 dienų
  • Where I am in Australia, to register a dirtbike here you need to put road tyres on it, which aren't that crash hot in the bush. And the police take great pride in defecting the people who want to stay alive and put knobbies on them.

    KingCosworthKingCosworthPrieš 13 dienų
  • "Like American politics, both the left and the right are undesirable" As an American, you hit the nail on the head lol

    SoundwaveSoundwavePrieš 13 dienų
  • There’s one reason that lane filtering isn’t legal in more places: Most people (including the people making laws) drive cars and car drivers don’t give a damn about the safety of motorcyclists. They think we’re all lunatics just having fun out there getting a thrill. A crash is inevitable in their eyes. Just lane filter anyways. I did it illegally in Chicago for many years on the tollway if traffic was stopped or close to it. Cool thing is that when the traffic is gridlocked, so is the cop thats trying to pull you over and has no choice but to resort to yelling at you over his loud speaker as you roll away at 15mph 😂🤣

    1 31 3Prieš 14 dienų
  • the law's don't endanger the motorcycle rider . the rider endangers themselves when they lane spilt between vehicles. one must turn on brain when riding or at least have some common sense😕😕??

    Dan TschosikDan TschosikPrieš 15 dienų
  • I would oppose filtering because it increases the chance of some biker damaging cars they are trying to squeeze between.

    quixxoquixxoPrieš 15 dienų
  • Globalism should be opposed at every ignition cycle.

    quixxoquixxoPrieš 15 dienų
  • Keep up the great work!🛵👍🤠

    Steve BorgSteve BorgPrieš 15 dienų
  • All car drivers should have to be a pillion on a bike through traffic and should be a passenger in semi-trailer/large truck just to see what others have to deal with. Maybe then car drivers might show respect for the needs of others. Letting bikes lane filter lessens the traffic the "passed" vehicles has to deal with. Trucks need stopping distance and turning room. Cars see every foot of space as theirs and some just do not want to share. Sad really. There is room for everyone on the road and respect is needed for each one.

    Kassie DreaneaiKassie DreaneaiPrieš 16 dienų
  • You wont believe this, but there are now people working on ABS brakes for bicycles, regular pedal powered bikes...

    James HartJames HartPrieš 16 dienų
  • Some abs is plain dumb. I turn it off for gravel backcountry roads by my house. It will re-arm itself once i hit 30 to 35 mph

    Ethan KulpEthan KulpPrieš 16 dienų
  • Let’s all take a moment to recognize how much better a rider this nerd actually is than most of us (nerd meant with the utmost respect).

    peter mitchellpeter mitchellPrieš 16 dienų
    • Nerd is a compliment, basically calling someone wise

      SpecialopsdaveSpecialopsdavePrieš 6 dienų
    • **In Homer Simpson’s voice** “NEEEEEEEERRRRRDDDDDD!”

      LessCommonKnowledgeLessCommonKnowledgePrieš 7 dienų
  • Gayest vid I've ever seen.

    vincent edgarvincent edgarPrieš 16 dienų
  • Filtering IS Lane splitting .

    Bruce RobinsonBruce RobinsonPrieš 16 dienų
  • The UN does not make law!

    Greg RollinsGreg RollinsPrieš 17 dienų
  • I agree.

    Phillip CoffmanPhillip CoffmanPrieš 18 dienų
  • I hate seeing those videos where that one jackwaggon pulls out IN FRONT of a biker because? There’re on their phone

    Zack StumpZack StumpPrieš 18 dienų
  • Filtering huh, it's called lane spitting in Cali and it's legal, always has been although now it's on the DMV book after so many years of people not knowing it's been legal.

    ChuckChuckPrieš 18 dienų
  • I think your message would hit harder if you made a safe right turn at the end of the video, instead of that ridiculous unsafe 270°, there's kids watching..

    Wouldn't you Like to knowWouldn't you Like to knowPrieš 18 dienų
  • Lane "filtering" still requires suicidal faith in other drivers.

    Scott MalcolmScott MalcolmPrieš 18 dienų
  • The majority of people operate with one dimensional brains, This can be seen while you’re on the road on any given day. People neglecting to press the brakes hard enough while they’re adjusting their radio at the red light and rear ending the car in front. Changing lanes suddenly and assuming that because their signal is on, That all other traffic will halt for them. People assuming because they drive below the speed limit, They’re “sAfE” drivers. People who freeze when an unexpected obstacle appears in their driving path and rather than correcting and avoiding, They either yank the wheel and plow into something else, or lock up the brakes, hit the horn and stare at the obstacle as it parts their hood, windshield, and headrest. Whenever you’re on the road, Just assume that everyone else is a drooling braindead moron who’s going to crash their car into you and kill you.

    EbbOneMintEbbOneMintPrieš 18 dienų
  • Your video is great. ^^ I'm learning a lot from you. -0-! I'm a beginner, so I'm not good enough. Look at my video and ask for some advice. plz....

    mentalholder 멘탈홀더 tvmentalholder 멘탈홀더 tvPrieš 19 dienų
  • Are you really under the impression that traffic jams/slow traffic is caused by an abundance of motorcycles? Filtering is an idiotic idea. It's convenient for the motorcycle driver, but so is driving down the side of the highway for someone in a 4x4. That doesn't make either sensible or safe.

    Jason PattersonJason PattersonPrieš 19 dienų
  • In the netherlands ABS isnt required My sportsbike doesnt have it at all And locking up the rear is fun (Given my bike is a 125cc A1 so brakes arent that powerful as on heavier bikes)

    AlexanderAlexanderPrieš 19 dienų
  • After watching this I wanted to subscribe, then realized I was already subscribed.

    Paul-Joseph de WerkPaul-Joseph de WerkPrieš 19 dienų
  • Love these videos

    SanDeitySanDeityPrieš 20 dienų
  • First of all Abs I will never have on any of my bikes And lane filtering in Australia is legal for full license riders If you need abs Don't ride a bike And if you can't judge a turn Don't ride a bike

    Offroad StuffOffroad StuffPrieš 21 dieną
  • Amused. I always add a hardwired interrupter switch to my friends’ ABS systems.

    Starcloak StarsideStarcloak StarsidePrieš 21 dieną
  • Laws? Really... Laws of Physics are the thing that screw most of us.... ‘Physics.. thou art a heartless bitch”...

    The Pidgeon’s ForgeThe Pidgeon’s ForgePrieš 21 dieną
  • "Are laws should assume intelligence rather than incompetence". I fully agree. Unfortunately idiots outnumber competent riders/drivers.

    Bob ParkerBob ParkerPrieš 21 dieną
  • People that don't know what they are doing making laws. Imagine that. As to the lane "filtering" sorry both are wrong. It is irrelevant to the stopping in the jam. This is why you keep ONE bike in the lane not side by side and you always point yourself towards an area to accelerate to get out of the way being rear ended. Filter and you cause another crash or bunch up as you find people trying to get into another lane. I saw this ALL the time going to work. No one should expect to see a bike in a non-lane while everyone is stopped.

    NNPrieš 21 dieną
  • I've been in a few situations where my 2020 KTM duke seemed like it had 0 braking ability when suddenly grabbing a handful of breaks at higher speeds. Usually the breaks are great. Awesome actually. It's those situations where the bike wants to avoid skidding that have me needing to swerve so I don't run into the vehicle in front of me. In these cases I curse the antilock brake systems. I'd rather skid a bit and have the option to control the skid vs just not have brakes. More testing on my end is needed. I don't want to run into that when I really need to avoid smacking into something or going off the side of the road.

    E. K.E. K.Prieš 21 dieną
  • 2:47 you gotta be seriously wrong in the head to ride like that...

    PnPridePnPridePrieš 21 dieną
  • Thay opening is gold

    Michael DunnMichael DunnPrieš 22 dienas
  • Lane Filtering and Splitting are legal in California and a few other states (under 35 mph). Why, because statistics like you quoted... keep up the good work.

    Ryan ShowalterRyan ShowalterPrieš 22 dienas
  • Lanes have gotten smaller due to bicycles stealing lanes, we don't need asshole motorbikes squeezing through our lanes and cutting people off. Drive like the rest of us and calm the hell down.

    Animal CrossingAnimal CrossingPrieš 22 dienas
  • Crab be like "if I'm gonna die, we all gonna die"

    PegasiPegasiPrieš 22 dienas

  • Filtering also increases the risk of minor bumps and scratching cars and clipping mirrors. This guy sounds as pathetic as those spandex wearing bicycle riders

    wasup foolwasup foolPrieš 22 dienas
  • Thanks for this!

    Emil FerentEmil FerentPrieš 23 dienas
  • Lane filtering is a joke. I don't share my lane. I'm a motorcycle rider. You just want to do what you want to do. Admit it and move on

    AdamAdamPrieš 24 dienas
  • Finally, someone who sees the disadvantage I see in having A.B.S.!

    Benjamin LenehamBenjamin LenehamPrieš 24 dienas
  • As a returning rider, the stats on right-handers was eye-opening, and I will heed the advice to be a little extra-cautious on them. Thanks, as you may have saved me and my bike! Happy New Year!

    Todd KTodd KPrieš 24 dienas
  • Same with Kawasaki traction control. I hate that thing. No way to permanently turn it off without ECU flashing. Cant wheelie with it ON all the time and i am forced to make full stop to turn it off.

    CommentatorCommentatorPrieš 25 dienų
  • Great view of sharing the road

    West CoastWest CoastPrieš 25 dienų
  • "Senile septegenarian". Hey man. I'm a septegenarian and I ride 10,000 miles per year, more than most younger riders, let alone drivers. Never had an accident...yet. So lay off the generalizations. (Tho I'm ok with the term "tweeting twits" of any age.)

    Bruce BrBruce BrPrieš 25 dienų
  • Yes legalize lane filtering but the one problem I see is for some reason, some drivers get angry and road rage happens. Why? Probably because those drivers think their the top dog of the road. F those guys

    Enterprise206Enterprise206Prieš 25 dienų
  • I'm not even a motorcyclist, but got hooked. I'm a regular car driver in a country that allows lane filtering (France), and though I saw the practicality of it, I had never realized the safety benefits, for both man and overheating engine. You really do a good job of showing the other side. Thank you !

    kartofffkartofffPrieš 25 dienų
  • I'm in Canada, and I would love to filter lanes! It's so tempting to do it even at it stands now.

    FrejborgFrejborgPrieš 25 dienų
  • welcome to Brisbane Australia

    stewart leestewart leePrieš 26 dienų
  • you say that the law should presume intelligence... are you sure this is accurate? is this what reality demonstrate? im honestly asking. i personally dont think so.

    Rene LariviereRene LarivierePrieš 26 dienų
  • Driving between two moving cars is what endangers motorcycle riders ! Do it at your peril ! ( unless at a junction slow moving) it's a stupid move...."

    Mick BawnMick BawnPrieš 26 dienų
  • What he said about cagers wanting everyone stuck in traffic because they are transcends many things in life, that jackass in the way at the mall escalator, your neighbors don’t want to see you successful, people that don’t want to see you happy, etc Its why socialism is so appealing to the miserable, everyone gets to be miserable together lowest common denominator

    macthemecmacthemecPrieš 26 dienų
  • In Portugal lane splitting is ilegal, for obvious reasons, but you can filter.

    Fábio PereiraFábio PereiraPrieš 26 dienų
  • 4:26 "people who drive boxes cant think outside of them".....best line ever

    Jonathan quadsANDtrucksJonathan quadsANDtrucksPrieš 26 dienų
  • I'm pretty sure this video is 2x as long as it needed just for your awesome one liners, and I'm glad! Great humor, neighbor!

    twenty six twentytwenty six twentyPrieš 26 dienų
  • I was for filtering after getting my motorcycle license, until I learned to drive a school bus, no you need to stay behind the car, or bus. That, or take away my liability for hitting you in my blind spot like Texas has by default from not allowing filtering in the first place. I nearly hit a Motorcycle despite double checking after he decided to filter illegally. He was lucky I was new and nervous and checked again a third time otherwise he was dead and it would of been 100% his fault for the illegal maneuver.

    Grey FoxGrey FoxPrieš 26 dienų
  • 6:25 - Another danger of right turns for motorcyclists is that on country roads with gravel shoulders, when a car cuts a right turn, he kicks up gravel on the road, on the right side of the right lane. Smart motorcyclists try to avoid this area on those roads, which effectively makes our lane smaller.

    Jeremy DJeremy DPrieš 26 dienų
  • Not all of the state's like my state Washington its not illegal to lane split

    Noah RaderNoah RaderPrieš 27 dienų
  • Bahaha that first 30 seconds 😃

    ADZ zADZ zPrieš 27 dienų
  • The writing for your videos are always top notch 😂

    THE2STrokePOTATOTHE2STrokePOTATOPrieš 27 dienų
  • LANE FILTERING is illegal because too many IDIOT perceive LANE FILTERING as LANE SPLITTING. Thanks too the idiots for ruining it for us > rider.

    Dan BlackDan BlackPrieš 27 dienų
  • I california if you don t split you can be rear ended at 80 miles per hour.. the freeway is lawless here

    crash n burncrash n burnPrieš 28 dienų

    crash n burncrash n burnPrieš 28 dienų
  • Bro...2:55 Lane filtering in India... Is what riders are born with😂

    Tushar GavankarTushar GavankarPrieš 28 dienų
  • Me : "You can't have a crash due to ABS if you don't have ABS." ** Rides off laughing on my old-school XR600 before skidding into something because my brakes are shit. **

    J. StronskyJ. StronskyPrieš 28 dienų
  • Lane splitting and lane filtering are the same thing. We just call if splitting in the states rather than filtering. It doesn't mean faster.

    Travis FloryTravis FloryPrieš 28 dienų